Month: October 2013

My Little Piece

I had originally asked to present a 10 minute video on taretråling and some rather surprising effects such as the Thiamine issue and the Iodine release, instead I felt very angry – I felt I needed to clear up some issues which were quite apparent, so instead I presented some papers I’d downloaded.

I mentioned iodine being used as a weapon by seaweed, the same as terrestrial plants

https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/9/823/2009/acp-9-823-2009.pdf

– I mentioned a paper I had on terrestrial plants actually having such a effective chemical weapon that it has been observed killing large numbers of animals

https://spectregroup.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/acacia-self-defense/

– I mentioned another on seaweed killing coral

http://news.nationalgeographic.co.uk/news/2011/10/111017-corals-reefs-fiji-seaweed-chemical-warfare-animals-science/

and yet another the mechanism of iodine being released by seaweed – then I asked if anyone present, in particular the marine biologists knew anything about this – there was a resounding no – I then asked if anyone wanted the papers waving them in the air – again a resounding no.

I mentioned Lennert Balks work on thiamine deficiency and how it is possible that this is the cause of major seabird die offs in the Baltic and north of Europe,

https://www.pnas.org/content/106/29/12001.full

I said I had a film of a bird displaying the symptoms mentioned in the papers, I said I had sent an email to Laurentzen and the havsforsknings institut on both subjects but received no reply.  I then asked those present if anyone knew about this and again a resounding no – I then asked if anyone wanted to read the papers and was met by the same result.

I then mentioned a paper talking about the state of our seas and how 500 people had died in a cholera outbreak in Chile, Peru and Bolivia due to marine enrichment –

http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/docs/005-390/005-390.html

the paper was from the lancet the oldest medical journal in the world – would anyone like this paper – the result was as expected – i then said all this information and more is on our website  http://stopptt.com/ – my point had been made.  In all around 2 minutes.

There was a little dinner afterwards in the miljødirektoratet – one of my fellow guests asked a marine biologist who had been doing statistics on fish populations after and before taretråling, if he could have a copy of his raw data – it was explained that this was difficult as there was so much – no problem came the reply, I can let you have memory sticks – it is public material isn’t it?  the reply was yes of course it was – “then that should be no problem”  – “ahh, but it is gigabites of material” replied the marine biologist – “no problem, just let me have it – I can even let you have a hard disc.”  the marine biologist was not happy with this and walked away – my fellow guest said “I am not surprised.”

This was the tone for the whole meeting – the concerns of the public are not being met in any way, and when they are there is likely to be some twist.

Here is a snip from a paper on the Fukushima accident – before the accident it was not a problem and the state was happy to let it drift – but one cannot say the same now – and it is happening here

Corrupt environmental agencies

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24369244 To think that this article mentions global warming, acidification of the seas and more and yet there is no mention at all of one of the worlds biggest industries removing seaweed forests on a global scale – we know seaweed binds something like 30 million tons of co2, the stuff on the Norwegian coast over 100,000 tons of nitrogen per year – dangerous chemicals are removed from the environment and yet there is no mention anywhere – this is truly bizarre.

Final Day of the Trondheim Seaweed Harvesting Meeting

Terje Halsteinsen adj

http://www.fiskeridir.no/om-oss/telefon-og-e-post-til-ansatte/ressursavdelingen/reguleringsseksjonen/terje-halsteinsen

Terje Halsteinsen gave a talk on the regulations and rules concerning taretrawlers – questions of electronic tracking and more.

Unfortunately he stated that taretrawlers, that is the seaweed harvesting trawlers were treated in the same way as any fishing boat  with the same rights and privileges, he went further to explain the law of first right, that is the law that says that the person who has established use over a long period of time has the first right.

He quoted from a outdated law, my colleague Johan put him right with a up to date copy of the regulations regarding fishing boats and fishing, it says that taretrawlers have the right to trawl regardless of first right.  The original law stated that no trawling is to be allowed within 1 nautical mile of any areas used for lobster, crab or any other kind of activity.  It is very strange that such a senior official should not know the current regulations.

It is also very sad that an American owned company (fmc biopolymers) should be able to walk all over Norwegian fisherman’s rights.  But that is apparently the case.

After this there was a talk by the miljødirektoratet stating a little of their history and what their job is and their affiliations

Miljødepartamang

Followed by an interesting talk  from vikna kommune, Ivar Grindvik https://www.venstre.no/artikkel/2011/02/13/vikna-venstre-arsmelding-2010/

Ivar grindvik adj

He mentioned major changes in the environment and how concerned everybody was particularly as the fisheries minister owns the biggest salmon farming business in the country – he mentioned that he felt that if the marine biologists were to work with local people it could be a very good combination – there have been big changes in the bird populations since the trawling started, but that could be due to other factors.  He went on to mention co2 and how seaweed binds this, how this was a big international issue  – and should be tackled at the local level –  “this is the job of us politicians. ”

Vikna concerns

he finished with “The rights of local people are being brushed aside for a monopoly.”

Martin Nilsen from Froya Kommune  https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Nilsen

Frøy Martin Nilsen

said that there was no great conflict in Froya with the taretrawlers but there had been some mention of crab fishermen and their equipment.  He then said that the picture was not clear over what happened to immature fish which lived in the seaweed forests once they had been cleared – this is something that needs research.

He also mentioned growing seaweed and how there are big possibilities and that there is a firm cultivating sugar kelp nearby.

Odd Inge Viken from Roan Fiskarlag spoke next  http://www.proff.no/selskap/roan-fiskarlag/bessaker/-/Z0IC0VB3/

norges fiskelag Jan Henrik Sandberg

Reduced catch after seaweed harvesting

He said that after taretrawling pollock (lyr) had diminished hugely in numbers.  I do know that there have been appeals from Roan Kommune to the minister concerned and that there have been no results from the meeting.

here is a little snip from that document

Plea from Roan fiskelaget

Next to speak was Jan Henrik Sandberg from Norges fiskarlag

https://no.linkedin.com/pub/jan-henrik-sandberg/6/100/5a4

Jan Henrik Sandberg Norges fiskarlag

Said that Norges fiskarlag has always been skeptical about taretråling

N fiskarlag advises against taretråling

Feel that the trial harvesting of 30,000 tons in the lofoten areas has not been researched enough, a letter sent to the fiskeriedirektoratet went further and said this was not good administrative practice.

Letter from Fiskarlag to the fiskeriedirektoratet.

Taretråling had been left out of the

Marine strategy plan for Trøndelag

Research strategy plan has 21 research updates

And the regions marine development plan

Further there was not enough information on the sea urchin problem(there are a number of unanswered questions we have too), not enough known about the effects on immature fish, he also mentioned the decrease in pollock(lyr) numbers and quoted figures from fmcs own site to support this.

Still researching fish

This cartoon shows quite nicely how many view the research done on tretråling – it says they’ve soon been harvesting for 50 years, fishermen were also out early and are not yet finished with research.

The next speaker was Ole Damm Kvilhaug rastoffchef at fmc biopolymer

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ole-damm-kvilhaug-88670a44/

odk giving talkODK talk headlines fmc

Said he felt this meeting was  more constructive than the previous meeting at Runde http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEEQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiskeridir.no%2Fcontent%2Fdownload%2F26871%2F243270%2Fversion%2F1%2Ffile%2Freferat-taremote-runde-16-17-april-2012.pdf&ei=f3lUUsroGse84ATfjIGACA&usg=AFQjCNGuPLeiSgwosXAlHkJfv8UwauRfQA which he felt had been confrontational.

He explained a bit about his background which included being a trawler skipper in the north sea, university in Tromsø, 12 years as a case handler for the fiskeriedirektoratet and 2 years with Rogaland county where he developed taretråling in  that area.

He then spoke about FMC and the history of taretråling on the Norwegian coast.

After his talk Johan Breivik asked him about the illegal trawling at Hustadvika (the first and only proven case of illegal taretråling in Norway)   He explained it was a combination of poor maps etc. He fully supported his men and said that they were good workmen and not out to do anything bad.  in fact shortly after the incident one of the skippers who trawled the bay retired.

Elin Stølen asked if they could remove the seaweed washed ashore after taretråling, Ole Damm explained they were not allowed to do this.

Eilin asking about taretråling

I asked him about fmc corporations record concerning the environment, i mentioned polluting the Mississippi river, and various other cases, i also mentioned the production of carborufan or furadan http://www.lionconservation.org/lion-poisoning.html  and explained that it was having a devastating effect  on the wildlife in Africa, and after causing the death of over 1 million birds in the USA was banned there – i went on the mention the mining of lithium and explained that it is destroying permanently one of the most fragile ecosystems in the world – he explained he knew nothing of this.

Strange that such a senior executive should be so lacking in knowledge of the corporation he works for – its also interesting to note that he did not ask for any information from me on these matters, but others did!

Trond Kjønnø http://www.valagro.com/en/corporate/group/algea gave us a talk on the company he works for ALGEA
.

Trond Kjønnø

The theme for the talk was “minimum environmental impact”  this is also on Algeas website.  the site also explains that this company is active in over 40 countries.

One very interesting fact that came out was that Algea thinks that harvesting from the wild is not such a good idea and wants to concentrate on cultivation –

Fremtiden dyrking Algea

Double clicking will enlarge the image.

During questions he was asked by Torjan Bodvin if there had been any long term research done on the impact on this type of harvesting in the areas they were harvesting on the ecosystem. (The type of harvesting algea does is clipping the fronds by machine – not removing the whole plant as in Taretråling.)

Trond explained that Algea had none.  But had done some research on birds in conjunction with researchers.  He was  asked if it could be called sustainable if they had no documentation – he replied it is sustainable for the seashore because we leave a good deal of the plant to grow again.

Torjan Bodvin http://www.imr.no/om_havforskningsinstituttet/ansatte/b/torjan_bodvin/en

Asking about research

It was  interesting to see Torjans concern as he later said in an interview with NRK http://www.nrk.no/sognogfjordane/taretraling-er-blitt-milliardnaering-1.11288758 that  that there were no big consequences from the current harvest in North trondelag.